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 2 valves vs 4 valves per cylinder

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PočaljiNaslov: Re: 2 valves vs 4 valves per cylinder    2 valves vs 4 valves per cylinder  - Page 2 Icon_minitimeNed 9 Jan - 17:32:49

opet kazem da gresis i da dugotrajnost ne zavisi samo od kubikaze,no dobro...
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Pa ne zavisi, uzmi G3 GTI 8V i GTI 16V, ista kubikaza, 8V garant duze traje...
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O cemu vi polemisete... Ima jos 100 drugih faktora koji uticu na dugotrajnost motora a ne to koliko ima ventila. 2 valves vs 4 valves per cylinder  - Page 2 371860
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Pa morao sam nekako da nazovem temu, a uglavnom ovi motori sa 4 ventila po cilindru imaju vecu snagu od ovih sa po 2 kada se radi o istoj kubikazi 2 valves vs 4 valves per cylinder  - Page 2 31595
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A zasto to imaju vecu snagu?
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Pa zato sto na svakom cilindru imaju po 2 ventila vise, jedan usisni i jedan izduvni... Bolje "Usisava" i "Izduvava"...
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Ok. A od cega zavisi trajnost motora?
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Mean Piston Speed
- -----------------
The best known "rule of thumb" is mean piston speed (average
speed the piston travels at a fixed rpm). It goes like
this:

Mean Piston Speed Result
------------------ ------
Under 3,500 ft/min Good reliability
3,500-4,000 ft/min Stressful, needs good design
Over 4,000 ft/min Very short life


Mean piston speed is easy to determine. It's based on the
piston stroke and rpm.

Cm = 0.167 x L x N

Cm = mean piston speed in feet per min
L = stroke in inches
N = crankshaft speed in rpm

Using the 1988 E28 M5 as an example:
E28 M5, Bore and stroke 3.68 x 3.31 in (93.4 x 84 mm)
At 6,900 rpm (factory redline)

Cm = 0.167 x 3.31 x 6900 = 3,814 ft/min

At 7,200 rpm (Dinan chip redline) = 3,980 ft/min
At 6,500 rpm (max constant speed) = 3,593 ft/min
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Znaci da vidimo Renault 19 16v

Cm=0.167x3.29x7000=3846 znaci nije lose,potrebna dobra konstrukcija

Golf VR6

Cm=0.167x3.56x6500=3864 moj je dugotrajniji za brucu po ovome Smile

plus da uzmemo da nisam video VRa koji ne vrti do 7 znaci boom Smile
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Yugo Cm=0.167x2.16x6500=2344 ???? Po ovom bi yugo trebalo da je vecan,ali?
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remus ::
Yugo Cm=0.167x2.16x6500=2344 ???? Po ovom bi yugo trebalo da je vecan,ali?
pa i bio bi mozda vecan da su upotreabljeni kvalitetni materijali,ipak je to presudno a svi znamo kakav je kvalitet izrade kod nas
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Bas ste me nasmejali Very Happy Ventilko dere svoju staru kozu da je VR6 najbolji na svetu,matrix se uvredio pa brani rendzu,remus ubacio neku forumulu koja je obojicu bacila u rebus....sou! 2 valves vs 4 valves per cylinder  - Page 2 39249 4 strane dezinformacija. mrzi me da pisem,ali obojica ste se nalupetali fino.
ps. nemojte da se sad naljutite na mene sto iznosim iskreno misljenje 2 valves vs 4 valves per cylinder  - Page 2 82995
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Sinisa, nemoj da te mrzi da pises 2 valves vs 4 valves per cylinder  - Page 2 733631
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remus = rebus Exclamation Question 2 valves vs 4 valves per cylinder  - Page 2 31595
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sinisa da ima neki argument napisao bi,ovako samo ispada kao da zna a u stvari ne bi da lupi siso
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misli sta hoces siso mrzi me da pisem,kad budem raspolozen oglasicu se
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aj cekamo Smile
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